Thursday, April 17, 2008

clarification

i think i actually agree with almost everything alan says. maybe if i restate my objection another way, it will clear up this soil and tree business a bit. maybe not. i have no real problem with saying literature is art and pornography is not - i bring paglia up for the sake of argument, to point out that there are divergent views on this issue, et cet - nor do i have a problem saying that what leads to the emotional response at the end (or anywhere in the midst) of a story is essential to making literature art. the problem i have is with this idea that the way art and pornography work are exactly the opposite, as though there is a different operating system. this seems to me to be the same type of distinction you talk about between the soil and the tree, only worse, because - while i accept the notion that a pig brain (or a work of pornography) is less complicated than a human brain (or a work of art) - i accept (or i suspect, based on my limited understanding of biology) that they both function via synapses, dopamine, seratonin, et cetera. this is why i won't eat frogs' legs, and why mary gordon's comments make me a little uneasy.

but i don't know. i did say - at the outset - all that stuff about mary gordon's "over complication of art... putting it on a pedestal," so maybe i'm not so much clarifying my opinion as i'm altering it a bit, becoming more moderate in response to alan's comments. food for thought. but i still think there's something a bit prideful about this idea that we do not manipulate our readers in much the same way, and that this is somehow dangerous to the art itself, because it's condescending. artists are smart, i think, and they have to be smart, because art has to be smart, but if you go around writing like you're smart (and i don't mean you should write like a dummy, i mean you shouldn't talk down to the reader), writing with an attitude, like you think you're smarter than, say, regular people, because i worry that the compassion and the generosity will go out the window.

and while it's quite alright for literary artists to be elitists about literary art, it's another thing altogether to be elitist about one's own work; to say "my book changed someone's life, but that person was an ignoramus, who totally misunderstood my work."

which is what happened in gordon's essay.

that said, again, i liked the rest of the essay, and agreed in large part with much of what was said. mary gordon probably has plenty reason to take pride in her work. i'd like to read one of the novels; i read about it, but i didn't read it, so who knows? not me.

i beg forgiveness.

1 comment:

Unknown said...

We surely don’t want compassion and generosity gone. And we surely don’t want to alienate readers by being elitist assholes. But I think the interesting thing about cool books (and I’m not just talking ‘literature’ here anymore) is that a lot of them are really smart, difficult things. VALIS by PKD comes to mind. Supposedly a scifi writer who writes this book (and he’s no wordsmith) that blows you (me) away – it didn’t save my life, but it enlarged my worldview, vision, whatever. So, part of what I’m trying to suggest is that we ‘face’ all this nonsense about ‘elitism.’ We sit around in a nice, cool building talking about fictional characters all day - it’s a little elitist, a little bourgeois, etc. I think we have to acknowledge that and say, okay, yeah, it is so, but we can have fun with it and maybe try to show others the way in. We also have to face the fact that many of use read each other and that’s about it; writers reading other writers.

Anyway, I agree with you. Gordon’s comments make me uneasy as well: that over-simple distinction about porn and lit – I should have attacked her and written mixed metaphors about trees in relation to it. But still, I understand her impulse, anyway, it just seems executed poorly.

There are, of course, varying degrees in all things, and I think I probably am little more on the ‘formal’ side of things than on the ‘entertainment’ side of what fiction should be; along with being entertained, I’m very interested in the form of the story, how it’s put down, etc, so this is what my defense was based on, I think.

This was fun, Sam, but I feel like I’m invading now. I just realized this is all people from FRED721. I duck out now, eyes on the floor.